Friday, July 31, 2009

I have noticed alot of breeders ship puppies. Isnt there something wrong with that?

This is a question not a statement. I wont even fly with my g.s.d. cause I wouldnt want him to be in the cargo area of a plane. Is it different the way breeders do it? What about when you get a dog from overseas? If its a multi day trip, do they get fed? do they have special cargo areas that have climate control? If you know for sure please let me know
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I would say depends on the breeder and the dog.

My breeder does ship her daughter works for the airlines and she flies with the dogs to deliver them herself.

I think more importantly would be to ask whether or not it is a reputable breeder or a puppy mill or backyard breeder.

I would always do my research on a breeder. AKC national club breeder referral is always a good bet. These people have to pass and follow numerous guidelines to become a breeder that they will recognize. This is the safest way to go.

Also good breeders are more suspicious of buyer as they should be the pups are there responsibility. They will ask a lot of questions to prospective buyers.

Most reputable breeders currently show their dogs through the AKC in conformation events. This would be question number one. These people do travel with their dogs and therefore flying is not so scary for them.

The cargo area is not a bad place it is pressurized and climate controlled and if the dog is crate trained it should be perfectly normal for him. Great for the dog he can go anywhere. My friends lab is bi-coastal how lucky he gets to go with him. He is just fine.
No problem shipping pups or adult dogs...the shipping containers are clearly of live animals, they are in pressurized holds with heat.no big deal. If you have worries, ask your vet for a mild tranquilizer before the flight. you pick up you pup at the baggage area. Have done it, no problems at all. Good luck
People ship puppies as well as other animals to allow people in other areas to receive your puppie. During certian times of the year animals can not be shipped do to weather temperatures. Alot of times if your animal is being shipped really far the breeder or new owner will have to fly with the pet and then the pet will ride under the seat. If the flight is really long then they will give the animal water and maybe a little food but they try to avoid giving them food so they will not need to go to the bathroom.
Well, first of all, this is only my opinion.

I do not think breeders should ship dogs. I believe the buyer needs to fully examine the dog before the purchase to assure perfection of the breed also being able to see both of the parents.

Flying is very hard on animals. Think of how hard it is on most humans with our ears popping and such things as jet lag. Dogs ears are so much more sensitive than humans so you could imagine how hard it would be on them.

Think long and hard before you put a pet of yours on an air plane.
Most breeders will ship through Delta Pet First, which is the #1 pet carrier.

It depends on the dog and where it is being flown. I know breeders in Florida will not ship a puppy to California, especially if it's under 2 pounds. Not sure about multi-day/international trips. All cargo areas have climate control, but again, depending on the breed, if airlines feel that the dog will not be able to handle certain temperatures, they will not ship the dog. (like bulldogs will not be shipped if the temperature at any point on the flight might exceed 75degrees F, because they have trouble regulating their temperature when they get hot)

Also, some planes allow you to take the dog into the cabin area (only small dogs, and only if you fly first/business class).
We have raised Working Registered Australian Cattle Dogs for years. Yes, there are speical cargo areas for the animals. Shipping is very common in breeders. I myself prefer face to face sales. I want to know whom is taking the pup, and if i dont like, trust the people i can turn them down. If i HAVE to ship a pup out , i ask for References (Vet %26 Personal) if the buyer can not provide this. No pup. No shipping from the months of May-September, we are here in Texas, many summer days over 100 degrees.

*****I would hope that if you decide to purchase a pup that recquires it to be shipped you have checked the sellers/breeders references, Vet references are a must. A Health Guarantee from the breeder is a must. Visit the facility if possible. You have no clue if the dogs are all in one cage together, many small cages, living conditions, treatment, etc.. People will lie to make a buck!
You don't think they are stuffing them in the mailbox, do you? Most of my animal shipments won't even fit in the mailbox, so I usually have to make a run to the post office.
No reputable breeder would ever ship their puppies because there are too many risks involved. The people that work for the airline that the puppy is being shipped with are supposed to check on the puppy and make sure that it has water when they are not flying. They don't usually feed them in trips due to the fact that the puppy is usually quite stressed and will not eat or will get sick after eating. They do have climate controlled cargo areas, and usually the pilot is told that there is a dog/puppy in the cargo area so they will pay extra attention to the temp and pressure in the cargo area. The only other option is to fly with the puppy as a carry on. That is the only way that I would ever consider shipping a puppy, but even then I may not do it. Basically, either the new owner or the breeder would fly to the other's persons closest airport to get the puppy, and then fly back with the puppy in the cabin with them.
that is awful if you dont like it dont buy from them or buy from some close
Yup I see no problem with it. My friend and I are going to Kennedy tomorrow to pick up 2 new Golden pups from Sweden tomorrow.
Yes, there is a problem with it.

The problem is that breeders are willing to ship you a dog - someone that they have not properly checked out to see if it is a good home for the dog and have never met.. A reputable breeder will never send a dog on a plane with just a credit card as proof that you will be a good home for the rest of its life. That is why there are so many dogs in rescue whose owners cannot handle them once they grow up. (and you have no idea if they are a puppymill as you have not visited)

As far as the question if it is actually safe to fly - there is no special area and that is why airlines do not allow dogs to fly cargo if it is above or below a certain temperature in the destination or departure cities. Some airlines make them the last on and first off, but still, there is no special magic breeder dogs get than any other dog.

Dogs overseas must be quarantined before leaving and upon entering the country. They fly the same way - the difference is the quarantine periods are very strict.
I've received lots of dogs, puppies and adults, who have been flown, as well as shipping my own dogs - puppies and females travelling to the stud to be bred. All reputable breeders will fly dogs. The airlines are really good these days about taking care of live animals, and yes they are in pressurized areas of the plane.
I had my Cocker Spaniel shipped to me from Arkansas to Philadelphia. He is fine and had no problems because of being flown in. He was 9 weeks old when i got him. Now he is 9 months. The reason I chose to buy a puppy like that is because where I live I hear about sick dogs and puppy mills all the time. And to go to a good breeder around here the puppy would have cost me more then twice as much.
Dogs get shipped all the time despite what some people here have said. I have shipped and received hundreds of dogs from Europe. Never a problem. Dog are not like humans, they do not think like we do and as a result they do ot look at flying as being bad or immoral. As far as breeders go, there are so many people around the world that want a particular bloodline that they would be crazy to turn down customers. Dogs are flying all over the world every day.
Try contacting some other people that have imported GSD's from Germany. I have some friends that have done this and not had problems. Now, I have also heard of a person that imported a male GSD pup from Germany, and it was a bilateral cryptorchid, which he noticed when he picked the puppy up. The one thing about importing is that it is harder to get something guaranteed from a breeder in Germany. A friend of mine brought a pup back from Germany last year when she went over to the Sieger show. Don't listen to people who are against shipping. If there is a bloodline that you want and can not find it locally, then shipping is usually your only option. I have shipped pups with no problems, adults as well. I try to get the pup on a direct flight, and if that can not be done, I go for a flight with the shortest layover time at an airport.
Well looks like your question was answered but also just to let you know, if you are going to have a puppy shipped I do know that where it's arriving it has to be at least 85 degrees and no lower than 45. That way they dont freeze or die of heat stroke. Also not all breeds are able to fly...like short nose breeds.
I raise chihuahuas and I would never ship one of my pups. My vet advised against it, said it was too hard on the tiny ones like chihuahuas. With a larger breed it might be okay. Personally I want to meet the buyers of my pups and buters should want to see how and where their pups are raised. Lots of breeders ship their dogs, but I am one that never will.
I got my puppy from a place in Iowa, and he was flown to us in CT. We got him in the summer though, and he had to be delayed a day because of the heat in Connecticut. It was a degree to hott for him to be flown. When we recieved our puppy, there was a little water thing hooked on his cage, and little food in his kennel. I would think they would do the same for the flight from Germany, but just a little more food and water.

Um, i really don't find it THAT wrong that breeders fligh their puppies. If someone was really going to abuse the dog, why would they pay an extra $275 to ship it to them? Anyone willing to pay for that extra cost, should be a good person and REALLY want the dog. Well hopefully. I guess this really isn't always the case.

But of course, some breeders require an application, before letting you know if you can get the dog.
I lived in Germany for 1 1/2 years, and the flight is around 7-8 hours. The dogs seem to do fine, and are in special cargo area that is climate controlled. It is best not to have them fed or given water during the flight, as this might lead to an upset stomach in their crate. All dogs going out of Canada and coming into Canada must have a 'passport' from the Food/Animal administration from Canada. They will ask you for this form when you go thru customs in Toronto or any major Airport in Canada. Also I have bought 2 purebreds from a registered breeder in Saskachewan, and nothing is given to the puppy before the flight, which is only around 3 hours in duration. Check with Canada Customs about bringing a new puppy from Germany.

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