Sunday, August 2, 2009

I just got a 7 month old lab mix..I NEED some advice...?

while we are in the house he will do anything i ask.including not eating a dog biscket that is sitting right in fround of him.he is TOTALLY food motivated.the problem is out side is a whole different story.i have to yell at him three or four times before he will come or stay or anything.even if he is right in fround of me and i am giving the command..
does anyone have this problems.and/or have tips to help.hes smart he learned all his tricks in just one day.

ps...ive never scolded him when hes come to me outside...
Answers:
This is a very common problem that many people have asked me about. When your dogs is inside with you make sure he is responding to all your commands the first time you ask. A lot of times dogs will respond to there owner inside great but there owner doesnt realize that a lot of the time its the 2nd time they give the command that there dog listens. This inconsistancy translates to problems outdoors, the dog knows that when you give a command its ok to ignore it. Also take your dog to the dog park and keep him on the leash for the first 10 minutes you are inside with him and work on the commands you want him to follow. Like tell him to stay and stand next to him and make him stay no matter what is going on around him. The next day stand 1 foot away from him and gradually increase it eveyday. Do this with all of your commands on leash at the dog park. The dog park is a great place for outdoor training because it provides the biggest distractions your dogs can have. If you can not afford to take your dog to a professional trainer (which is the best option), and the above mentioned does not work, the cure all is an electric shock collar. I know a lot of people dont like this idea but it works faster and better then anything else with difficult dogs. The police and millitary dont want you to know this, but they use these collars from time to time as well. When a dog is a puppy its mother corrects its mistakes by bitting the back of its neck growling and giving it a little shake causeing pain to the little pup. This is natures way, I believe a shock collar is just an extension of that. Make sure you follow the directions word for word that comes with the collar and I promise you will see the biggest change of your dogs behavior you could imagine within a couple days. Over the last 10 years I have trained probally 50 german shepherds for agillity and protection and have only had to use this type of collar once. It was on a dog that was very agressive with people and normally you cant fix an agressive dog with more agression but nothing else worked and the dogs owner wanted to put it down. The dog was 3 years old and this was in 2004. It took me 10 days to completely change all of the dogs bad habits and to this day I still speak with the owner and he tells me his dog is great. He stopped useing the collar about 6 months after I gave him his dog back and hasnt used it ever since. If you follow the directions that come with the collar it can be a very valuable tool. I know some people will give me the thumbs down for this, remember that the collar does not cause any permanant damage to the dog in any way. The pain only lasts as long as the shock and yes I did shock myself to so I knew what I was doing to the dog and it was enough to make me jump but not cruel by any stretch of the amagination. good luck
Try scolding him. Give him a treat and praise when good. Also train the dog commands outside. He might just be distracted by the sights, sounds, and scents of the outdoors. Try training him outside and give reward.
Obedience training would be recommended and looks like he has good learning abilities. Try home training with very small training snacks, and each time he comes, reward him. I have noticed that my dog learned faster with hand signals rather than plain commands. You may want to go to library and find some books on how to train the dog in best possible way. Good luck!
I have a male lab that is very much alike yours. I actually have to have my husband state the command. Maybe it is something in the tone of voice?? I do not scold mine either :(
Sometimes dogs only respond to commands in similar environments to where they were taught those commands. I used to train my dog in the house and in the back yard, but I found I sort of had to "re-train" her to respond to the commands while we were out on a walk. It's all part of mastering the commands, once the dog has the basics down inside a controlled environment like the house, you just have to keep working on them in many different environments until he will respond no matter where you are.
Dogs can be easily distracted outdoors because of all the sensory stimulus, especially if they don't get out much. Try training exercises outside for a while, and use a leash with a choke-chain collar to issue corrections during the training.
OBEDIENCE TRAINING
Never scold your dog. I know some people think this is a good solution, but it just scares the dog and they don't know what they did wrong. Holding back on giving him a treat or removing your attention from him is negative enough for a dog.

I have a spaniel who was that way too. He will do everything and anything inside, but outside he would much prefer to chase the birds. Teach your dog attention focusing (inside first). This means you want your dog's eyes looking at your eyes. You can do this by putting a treat between your eyes and giving the command. Then remove the treat and use jsut your hand. Then try with just the command. This is great for getting your dogs attention any time you want it. When he knows this, bring him outside and work on leash. This will help you keep him near you. Start attention focusing and praise him with treats for doing it. Make sure you are using the highest value, smelliest treats you have. (Not milk bones...dogs will find them boring vs. outside). Then start adding simple commands such as sit, down, etc. If you lose your dogs attention, put them inside (while you stay outside) with their leash on (do not let go of it), and close the door. Five seconds later open the door and try again. He will listen to you so that he doesn't have to go outside. (If he prefers being inside, then you go inside and he stays out). Eventually you should be able to get his attention away from anything with one command and get him to listen to all of your commands when he is outside. (Eventually you can start working off leash in small areas).

You also said that you have to tell him three or four times. Try to not repeat a command. By repeating a command, the behaviour will then be considered that command multiple times. (i.e. sit becomes sit sit sit instead). Give the command once. Allow three to five seconds for the behaviour. If it is not given, than remove him from the situation and bring him back five seconds later (with no command or talking to him).

I know its a lot of work (I've had to do it), but it is definitely worth it! Have fun with your new dog!
I had a Lab mix. She was very smart but Labs can be very stubborn also! LOL I don't excatly undertsnad what you are wanting him to do but it sounds like you are haveing a hard time controlling him outside? If you want him to come to you while he is outside, what I had to do was go over to where she was at and grab her by the collar and bring her to me and tell her "right here". That way she knew where excatly I wanted her to be when i called for her. I never screamed because that tends to show that the "pack leader" which is you, is out of control and agitated. Just say in a firm voice and let him have as much outdoor time as you can. Stand up tall and keep your chin up, never sqat down or call him in a high piched or "sweet" voice. This shows that you are vulnerable. I learned this from a dog trainer and it works...just takes time! So far it sounds like you have control of him in the house...but he is giveing you the run around outside. Try what I said and see if it works for you. It has worked on all dogs that I have had...good luck and stay persistent. Dog treats are a good way to reward him for obeying while outside since he is so food driven. Always make him sit and wait before the treat outside though then he will catch on that obeying you while outside is a good thing. You will soon be able to stop treats after a while...good luck!
Hi!

I know what you mean! It seems like when they're outside they're deaf, probably because outside is such an exciting place for a dog - so many smells and new things to explore. If your dog has been trained in that one environment (inside) it probably needs to be retrained outside. I would put the dog on a leash when you go outside. Have some really really yummy treats and give the dog some commands... when he does it give him treat. That way you're teaching him that when he obeys...something good will happen. If he's a fast learner and food motivated it might be the best way to go.

Good luck hope you work things out!
This is a very common problem, especially with teenage dogs like yours. The good news is that the teenage phase will pass and he will become more sensible, the bad news is that he still won't train himself.

My suggestion is that you get a training leash (long one) and keep him on it all the time while he's out. You don't want him to pick up any bad habits, such as not coming when called.

Dogs are not good at generalising. "Sit" inside the house might not mean the same to him as "sit" outside the house. I prefer to gradually train a dog - slowly increasing the distraction level until I have a reliable response at all levels and in all situations.

It's very good that you have never scolded him when he comes to you outside. Try also not to repeat a command. Call him, and if he doesn't come the first time, then calmly go get him or pull him toward you (this should be easy if you use the training leash). Remember to praise all good behaviour.

Also something many dog-owners inadvertedly teach their dogs is that when the command "come" is given, it means that the fun is over. If you only call your dog when it's time to go home, the dog will be less motivated to come to you. Try to call him often and reward him with games, treats, toys etc. and then let him run off again. Make sure you grab hold of his collar before you give him his reward. You can also established a fixed routine of fun and treats for when you come home, so that the dog knows that the fun isn't over just because you're going back inside.

Since he's most likely in his teenage phase, it's important that you remain fair, consequent and calm. He might be trying you out , so try not to lose your temper with him (tempting though it may be). Try not to teach him too many new tricks during this period, as it can be difficult for teen dogs to concentrate properly, instead practise the ones he already knows.

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